The DNA article by Ashwin Mahesh is interesting.   An advisory committee member or not being the faculty of IIM Bangalore has its own stamp.  By the way the article is in the name of Ashwin the person.

Thse are valid points posed by Professor Ashwin:-

1. Is it a truly an authorized project, with a design approved by BBMP’s technical advisory committee? No.
2. Has it followed the Karnataka Town and Country Planning (KTCP) Act’s requirement of being notified for widening in this year’s calendar? No.
3. Have there been public consultations on the project, along with a resettlement plan, as required in the KTCP Act? No.
4. Could we not focus on finishing the work at CNR Rao Circle first, and then proceed to see if Sankey Road needs widening? Yes

Why not be bold to give your positive comments on the issue of Sankey road widening Mr. Coward for a change?

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@ Coward  -  I spoke to Dr Ashwin Mahesh. He said he is prepared to answer the questions if you are prepared to reveal your identity, first.

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on issues, not on identities though. <end of message>

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Just wanted to poll the collective wisdom of Prajegalu on the CNR Rao underpass, which has been under construction for more than a year. I have not be able to visualize the plan, despite passing by the excavation on numerous occasions.

It looks like traffic proceeding from Maramma Circle towards Ypr will have a free passage. What is troubling therefore is another ramp being built for the traffic coming in from Mekhri Circle. I would greatly apprecite if someone could resolve my little confusion. Thanks.

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I have scoured the net for plans but all I get are news reports where the reporters themselves havent bothered to understand what exactly BBMP is planning to do. Such a shame. 

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So here is the latest on how our "representatives" are "representing" us. They get paid to sit at home and not do their job. 

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As a non-expert, I can see that CNR Underpass will go the Mwm Circle underpass way. The at-grade roads for left/right turns will just be wide enough for a bus to wriggle through. The Ypr bound traffic will start massing at the next traffic junction. The planners have probably not factored in the pedestrians - BHEL/IISc goers beware.

Public consultation is probably too much of an ask, shouldn’t JNNURM at the very least mandate that the plans be put on a website for all to see?

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In fact I think this CNR Rao underpass will be a complete disaster. Already - since they opened up the road, it is impossible to exit from IISc - since there is a continuous flow of traffic. Also there is a jam caused at the Maramma Circle ( technically CV Raman circle ) entrance, since traffic is flowing continuously.

Let me bet that in a year or so, when they finish the work, they will put a signal at Maramma circle as there will be a huge jam caused by the fact that traffic has to cross directions there. All this while, since traffic inflow was regulated there was a break in the flow which allowed traffic to cross. Now that has been eliminated.

In a year after that, they will decide that they need to build an underpass there and screw up Malleswaram traffic for a couple more years. Meanwhile, they will cut off all the trees in the area.

As I have said on several occasions, a way to at least reduce this mess is to change the directions of Margosa and Sampige roads. But nobody in power seems to care - its much more lucrative  to have to build underpasses - `everybody' benefits - from the contractors to the tree mafia.

I dont think there is any hope for Malleswaram any more.

The fundamental problem in this country is that people havent realised the difference between selfishness and elightened self-interest. People do things - life scams, take on useless projects, park badly - essentially out of selfishness. If instead they realised that if they did things out elightened self interest they would benefit more in the long run.

For example, parking on the footpath. People do this because it is convenient. But what happens. Pedestrians are forced to walk on the road. This causes the road to become effectively smaller. This causes traffice to get jammed up. Which finally inconveniences the person who parked on the footpath since he is stuck in a jam - perhaps for a much longer period than it would take him to park elsewhere legally and walk a  few metres.

Ramesh

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We, in Koramangala, appear to have avoided such a fate, at least for now - check this. Besides, I suppose it's time we demanded the following (that I had stated, in addition):

I think we need to ask each of the officials to join us over a padayatra through all of these junctions (Domlur/ Indiranagar, Marathahalli, K R Puram) to understand the problems first hand, which otherwise they fail to appreciate while wizzing past them in chauffeur-driven cars. We could also possibly ask them to first set right the wrongs already committed, to show their capability, if they have any, and then to work on fresh jobs. - - -  And, details of such massive projects affecting every aspect of our life should have been made available to us at least a year in advance.

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The CNR Rao underpass continues to be a conundrum. What is probably clear by now is that YPR bound traffic will pass under. A deep excavation had commenced on CV Raman Avenue adjacent to the Post Office; a robust concrete structure was being built - separating traffic heading from Sadashivanagar Police Station junction to MWM and YPR.

Now, all of a sudden, the excavation has been closed. The robust wall (what looked like a retaining wall of an underpass), has been reduced to a mere median. My layman opinion is that someone has massively botched up the plans.

I would be grateful if any of the Prajegalu can throw more light on this Traffic engineering marvel.

Thanks.

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Who knows.

I realized that when I posted something regarding this - i was optimistic that the work would be finished in a year. Its been a year and a half and still no signs of any sort of completion. Further, as I remarked in my earlier post, I think they have already made plans for an underpass at Maramma circle. Meanwhile 15th Cross is destroyed, 17th and 18th cross are a mess. Margosa road is a mess. 4th main has become a major road from being a quiet street.

All of these problems can be solved with a littel bit of traffic management. For example, currently traffic travelling to Yeswantpur from the city hit 18th cross twice as it turns on Margosa, 17th and then 8th Main.  If the directions of 17th and 18th cross are reversed, this would not happen - and the jam on 8th Main between 17th and 18th cross would and at 17th and Margosa would vanish. 

Even better, if they reverse the directions of Sampige and Margosa they would not need any more underpasses. But that is the subject of another post.

Ramesh

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What is going on there? Traffic drives on the right hand side for some time, no signs of active work at the underpass (work frozen due to some problem?).

Yes, need a separate post to understand the CNR Rao Circle 'halt', Sampige road and Margosa.

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