Expert panel on Delhi BRT

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asj - 18 December, 2008 | Bangalore | India | Delhi | Pune | BRTS | Pune | report | Media Reports | public transport

Refer "Experts for BRTS". It may seem strange coming from me (support for continuing)  but - here we have a classic situatoin where basics were never looked at, some sort of bus way created and everyone expected a miracle.

Now this panel of experts - they should be providing solutions and recommending the basics (rationalised routes & frequencies along with quality governance not this blueline killers) that are missing instead of saying Metro Zindabad!!

Bottom line is until our City Development Plans limit growth (a cap on FSI which has been diluted over years is hardly going to help) and spend more in semi-urban, rural settings, our cities will see unsustainable growth and no system will be able to cope with it (be it a metro, mono, BRT, 80 + flyovers that Delhi already has.......). 

The panel has not uttered a word in favour of traffic demand management.......what sort of an expert group is this? 

 ASJ


COMMENTS

Welcome Clarification on the matter

asj - 24 December, 2008 - 13:34

Here is a clarification forwarded to me by e-mail which I thought Praja should find useful. It comes from -Sanjeev Kumar Lohia, Director (Urban Transport), Ministry of Urban Development.

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Dear All,

 

The media reports are unfortunately totally away from the real report of the Parliamentary Committee which as the line Ministry we have received recently. Whatever has been quoted in the press is portion of the verbatim statement of one of the expert's views on Delhi BRT which have been reproduced in the report in inverted commas. These are not at all the views or recommendations of the parliamentary committee.   All experts' views would depend upon their own understanding of the subject and exposure as well as the experience. Nobody can claim to be expert on all the things and hence the understanding of some issues can be skewed also sometimes of even the "experts". Many times we do not know what we do not know and hence may make inappropriate assumptions / statements.

 

The parliamentary committee has recommended regarding BRTS as under:-

 

"Bus Rapid transit Systems (BRTS):

 

BRTS which entails dedicated lanes for high capacity buses, is a crucial mode providing smooth and affordable transport facility to the public.  Considering its low cost, case of implementation, wide area coverage, flexibility and overall sustainability, this system should be encouraged.  However, the Committee have been informed by the expert that its merits notwithstanding, this concept should be cautiously and selectively applied in cities and that there are certain basic parameters and prerequisites necessary to make this system successful.  In line with the advice of NUTP, the Committee would like to believe that factors such as the urban form, terrain, level of demand, direction and extent of sprawl, width of road available, extent of population density have been taken into consideration in BRTS projects. 

 

From the material furnished by the Ministry, the Committee understands that apart from Delhi, BRTS projects in 8 other cities have been approved.  The Committee hopes that before implementing these BRTS projects, a thorough scientific feasibility study of each respective city has been taken up in the light of the above-mentioned parameters with due incorporation of public opinion as well.  In the backdrop of the criticism of BRTS project in Delhi, the Committee expects that utmost care would be taken in the implementation of these projects."

 

As can be seen clearly from the above recommendations that the Committee has neither given any recommendations regarding scrapping of BRTS in Delhi nor have given any comments regarding BRTS being failure in Delhi.  The Committee has only advised taking utmost care in the implementation of these projects in the backdrop of the criticism of BRTS project in Delhi.  It may be worth noting that the first line of recommendation of the committee clearly identifies that BRTS is a crucial mode for providing smooth and affordable transport facility  to the public and that this system should be encouraged. 

With regards,

 

Sanjeev Kumar Lohia

Director (Urban Transport), Ministry of Urban Development.

 

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My take -

 

This is good news indeed. What I am now hoping for is to see the actual report as I wish there are more specifics laid out by the Ministry on the factors considered as pre-requisites.

 

How wide should a road be for implementing a BRTS with median busways? 100 feet?

 

I have argued it ought to be more as crosswalks / pedestrian subways are vital and IRC norms recommend that such facilities are at least 2.5m wide. In short we need more width (perhaps 112 feet as a minimum).

 

The signal phasing then becomes less time consuming, possibly free left turn slip roads can be provided and overall wait times at junctions reduced (compared to 5-6 minute signal cycle length on Delhi BRT currently).

 

Lets hope we have more clear protocols emerging to guide our cities to success rather than failures in such ventures.

 

ASJ

 

Media doesn't do its work properly !

kbsyed61 - 24 December, 2008 - 15:47

Doc,
Thanks for sharing the useful information. My experiences also tells me that media doesn't care to inform people the actual facts. They just pick pieces and try to sensationalize it for cheap popularity. On BRTS, media should have taken a moral and ethical ground to lay the facts in public domain from both sides, in other words they should have helped in forming a public opinion for better systems and projects.

For example, the official versions says one thing http://bangalore.praja.in/blog/devesh/2008/12/16/did-state-illegally-give-bial-forest-land-commercial-purposes#comment-10201

Media sensationalize it by saying - http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Fresh+turbulence+hits+Bangalore+Airport&artid=6ggWWmhw7Sk=&SectionID=Qz/kHVp9tEs=&MainSectionID=XT7e3Zkr/lw=&SectionName=UOaHCPTTmuP3XGzZRCAUTQ==&SEO=Bangalore,%20International,%20Airport,%20Authority,%20Limi

In any case, once again thanks for following up on Delhi BRTS.

Syed

BRT was an agenda between congress and BJP. I saw a program on Aaj Tak, Hindi News Channel where there was a debate between Sheila Dikshit, Sushma Swaraj and public. Sushma Swaraj argued without proper facts on BRTS saying the delays for a car traveller wheras public openly criticized Sushma's Comments saying the delays of cars should not be accounted, passenger should take the bus. This openly reflected in these elections, although Times of India, CNN IBN and Headlines Today gave negative versions of BRTS to the public. Only NDTV gave the correct image of BRT (nothing personal). We know it is not as great as Bogota or Curitiba, it is more a dedicated bus lane. But, something is moving forward. This is what people want and they are intelligent enough to decide on their own and do not believe in hyped media reports.


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