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kbsyed61 - 2 November, 2008 | BIAL | Bangalore | RTI | Citizen Reports | AAI | HAL
Below given are the official numbers for Air Traffic at HAL prior to BIAL opening in May, 2008. These numbers were provided officially by AAI in response to one of the early RTI applications filed in May, 2008.
Interesting that, a country, a city which provides Software and Information Tech services to the entire world doesn't uses for its own use. Please note that AAI seems to have not maintained the air traffic data in electronic form prior to 2001.
Our GOK departments are no better than GOI offices. This is the same story all across. Recently it was reported that Motor Vehicle department (RTO) offices have not centralized their database, i.e. each office maintains its own DB. We have a long way to go before we make use of the skills we have acquired in past decades.
Here are the excerpts from AAI response to an RTI application:
1.Currently at HAL airport, as of April 30, 2008,
a)How many flights land and take off per hour during peak hours 6am - 10am and 6pm - 8pm?
In a day between – 6am - l0 am
Arrival / Departure / Total Movements - 41 / 37 /78
In a day between - 6Pm - 8 Pm.
Arrival / Departure/ Total Movements - 29 / 22 / 51
b)How many passengers per hour during peak hours 6am - 10am and 6pm - 8pm?
No record for hourly basis movement of passengers is maintained. As such the data is not available.
c)How many flights land and take off per day?
No. of Aircraft per day Arrival / Departure - 165 (Average) / 165 (Average)
d)How many passengers per day?
Arrivals - 15381(Average) / Departure - l2805 (Average)
e)How many flights a year?
Arrival / Departure / Total - 59495 / 42260 / 101755
f)How many passengers per year?
For the period April2OO7 to March 2008 Arrival / Departure / Total 5514065/ 4673825 /10287890 (App.1 0.3 mn)
g)How many tons of cargo per year? Loaded in tons / unloaded in tons / total 87235 / 87965 / 175200
2.What was the growth on yearly basis for international and domestic traffic w.r.t flights per days, passengers and freight, since 1995?
The yearly passenger traffic growth during 200l-2008 is enclosed. The data before 2001 is not readily available.
3.How much revenue from all sources is earned during the year 2007 (From January to December)? The revenue earned by AAI during the period April 2007 to March 2008 is Rs.245.90 crores. This includes RNFC/TNLC/PSF and Commercial Revenue only. This does not include landing/parking/ground handling and Cargo Revenue which have been collected by HAL and MSIL. The figures are not known to AAI Bangalore.
4. What is the average revenue earned per passenger from all sources?
No such data available
5.What are the revenues for each year since 1995?
Following information is readily available.
2004- 2005 Rs.97.9 4 crores.
2005- 2006 Rs.153.44 crores.
2006 - 2007 Rs. 2l I .l 5 crores.
2OO7 - 2008 Rs.245.90 crores
COMMENTS
>a city which provides
Nags123 - 2 November, 2008 - 21:28
>>a city which provides Software and Information Tech >>services to the entire world doesn't uses for its own >>use. If we start using computer for atelast 10 Govt dept where people interact with day to day basis. It will reduce lot of manual intervation (read corruption). Simple ex, wd be somebody sactions plan, other guy issues OC after completion. For building violation, govt tries to recover fines from public, do they take action against person who issued OC ..
Nags .......
Devesh - 3 November, 2008 - 13:04
Just a simple observation.
In 190 years of British "Raj", 500 acts were passed. In 50 years of "independence" 5,000 acts were passed.
Each act when passed ensures a loophole, so that the citizenry is at the mercy of the politicians or bureaucracy for favours.
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Devesh R. Agarwal
Visit my aviation blog at http://aviation.deveshagarwal.com
Something wrong with the AAI numbers
Devesh - 3 November, 2008 - 13:09
a)How many flights land and take off per hour during peak hours 6am - 10am and 6pm - 8pm?
In a day between – 6am - l0 am
Arrival / Departure / Total Movements - 41 / 37 /78
In a day between - 6Pm - 8 Pm.
Arrival / Departure/ Total Movements - 29 / 22 / 51
Something very wrong with these numbers. 78 flights PER HOUR (as per your query). Downright impossible for HAL airport to achieve. In the total 4 hours and 2 hours yes.
But at the same time, we should not assume these are the TOTAL flights at HAL. Since non-commercial (military, training, and private) flights are not included in these numbers. Which is why I have the highest regards for the ATCOs at HAL. They out-perform their AAI counterparts at BIAL by miles.
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Devesh R. Agarwal
Visit my aviation blog at http://aviation.deveshagarwal.com
Get AAI revenue break-up
Devesh - 3 November, 2008 - 13:18
3.How much revenue from all sources is earned during the year 2007 (From January to December)? The revenue earned by AAI during the period April 2007 to March 2008 is Rs.245.90 crores. This includes RNFC/TNLC/PSF and Commercial Revenue only. This does not include landing/parking/ground handling and Cargo Revenue which have been collected by HAL and MSIL. The figures are not known to AAI Bangalore.
This is key to understanding BIAL. They have put their airside charges in line with AAI.
Get break up details of RNFC, TNLC, PSF and Commercial Revenue. From the PSF ask for specific break up as to how much was paid out for security services. Also ask for break up of expenditure if possible by heads of account RNFC, TNLC, PSF, Commercial.
If I remember right, BIAL should not be getting RNFC. Only TNLC, PSF, and Commercial. In Rs. 200 PSF about Rs. 130 is paid to CISF. Therefore AAI would get only Rs. 70. I do not know if the 245 Cr is based on 200 or 70.
If 200. You can understand why BIAL is frantic for the UDF which is 9x the PSF income. (675 vs. 70). Interesting poll question. Are we getting 10x (9x+1x) the service quality at BIAL ?
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Regards
Devesh R. Agarwal
Visit my aviation blog at http://aviation.deveshagarwal.com
Wait for another 6 months for AAI revenue Break up !
kbsyed61 - 3 November, 2008 - 14:30
Devesh, It would be helpful, if you could provide that info you had from your sources. Our experience tells us that, to get any information through RTI, takes about 3-6 months. Then also you are not guaranteed for all the information. You get one liner, data not available. Syed
RTI reply attached
kbsyed61 - 3 November, 2008 - 17:05
Have attached the RTI reply to the main post itself, find an image attachment at the end of the post.
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